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14 years 2 months ago #9741 by soccrdad30
Points system sound off was created by soccrdad30
As a new owner of ZCS, many issues have been dealt with, and many more still need to be addressed. Please keep this thread to the Point System, that has been part of ZCS for a very long time. I do understand the reasoning behind why to have such a mechanism for possible features. But if features are not utilized, why have/use this application?

Members earn 'points' for logging in, for commenting, donations, and other various activities in ZCS. And the original idea was to use the 'points' to 'purchase' goods and/or other services. Which if a system is devised correctly, it would work perfect. And for most ZCS functions the 'points' are disbursed correctly, and has been perfect. The only problem is, coming up with a good solution to spend your earned 'points'.

And this is where you can tell me what you think about the 'points' system. Please remember that the Forums do have a ranking system for you and that is seperate from the 'points' system. The Forum ranking is based purely on your posting into the forums.

Work is still being done behind the scenes, as we continue to update and add features to ZCS. I plan to leave this thread up for about three weeks to get an idea of your thoughts of the 'point' system. Then it will be closed, so please sound off! John

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14 years 2 months ago #9742 by tealplanes
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John,
For me personally I don't care one way or another. If points go away, ZCS will be no more, no less the great site it is.
Loren

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14 years 2 months ago #9743 by Kelley
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Points to me are really waste of energy/time..If I want to make points I go on Facebook and play a game there. If there were some "prize" at the end, people would just post junk on here to get it.

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14 years 2 months ago #9744 by garthah
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John
Doesn't really do anything for me other than show who is the most verbose maybe. They are not an incentive to my activity here.

cheerz Garth

cheerz Garth

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14 years 2 months ago #9745 by HoboTim
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Points are a distraction!!! Especially in their beginning. Those who could assist Brad with donations made the rest of us feel inadequate. I do recall a few conversations back then. Also recall a select few brand new members making fairly large donations to expedite their existense within the community. None of it was impressive to me. You want to impress me, be the Pelle Soeberg of Z scale!!!! Join the slow growing list of Z master modelers!!!! Money can't buy the skill, but it can sure help those who have it(the skill that is!).

I vote to Trash the Points!!!!

Hobo Tim

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14 years 2 months ago #9746 by BillMock
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I'm sure not motivated by points.
So for me, if the points go away; that's fine by me.
Bill Mock

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14 years 2 months ago #9747 by tealplanes
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It's starting to sound like there will be a lynching at the end of the day in Tombstone territory. Maybe it is time to string the fellow up and get back to drinking and gambling.....uh, I mean modeling and running. :o)
Loren

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14 years 2 months ago #9748 by shamoo737
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Burn, baby burn. :laugh:

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14 years 2 months ago #9749 by Mr.JA
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I mentioned about doing away with the point system a few times before and after you took over ZCS. I say dump it. I'm still more than willing to make donations towards keeping ZCS up and running whenever needed. ;)

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14 years 2 months ago #9750 by N/A
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I was never motivated by the point system. Recommend doing away with it.

Recommend recognizing individuals like Trainboard.com does if they make a donation/contribution to support Zcentralstation.

John Bartolotto

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14 years 2 months ago #9751 by ausman2001
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Let me add my voice to the chorus - to me it matters not a whit nor a jot. Let's go for simplicity.

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14 years 2 months ago #9752 by Rowan
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ausman2001 wrote:

Let me add my voice to the chorus - to me it matters not a whit nor a jot. Let's go for simplicity.



Ditto !

:)

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14 years 2 months ago #9753 by slugger
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John! I have a different veiw of the point system then all the others.I like the point system and I will take everyones points that dont what the points so i may be KING.
Okay, just kidding!!! lol . I have no use for the point system so i say scrap it. I agree with Alex about supporting the site when I can.
Steve aka "Slugger"

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14 years 2 months ago #9754 by soccrdad30
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slugger wrote:

John! I have a different veiw of the point system then all the others.I like the point system and I will take everyones points that dont what the points so i may be KING. Steve aka "Slugger"


Ok Steve... You sure you want all the points!

John K.

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14 years 2 months ago #9756 by Zcratchman_Joe
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Now the point system... and this coming from a person that will probably always be closer to the lower end of the ol' temperature gauge. Sure dump the points just when I finally get two or three… I don’t think so! What is this turning into a socialist site??? I haven’t been here long but from what I’ve heard, just like any place where people are allowed to work their way to the top, there are some that cheated their arses off to get where they are today! Let’s hear it for the American way of life showing off its ingenuity for the world to see! Just like we do what we must in order to get the job done in Z scale, we do what we must to get to the top here.

BUT, there are some good “points” to be awarded the points system itself. One, it may not be welcome by those whom have spoken out so far, but what about to those which are a bit too shy to speak out? Or ARE there any? I would still like to know how many actual members are here at ZCS. How many visit less than once per week but more than once per month? That is the question. I’ve noticed that I see the same names posting here on this topic as I do in Chat. The un-shy ones. And the points system looks GOOD being on the front page from a sales standpoint. As does Chat and Eventz, etc.. People visit a website for various reasons and every little bit helps. If all they visited a site for was the forum and photos, they would go where they read what they wish to hear and see what they wish to look at (all CN and a few other “minor” players, if I had it MY way).

If anything John, you might consider making the points list a MUCH smaller font size. Then fit something else above it (like a paying advetisement) OR better yet, revamp the points/contributors. List the top contributors in a box by itself. And not just $$$ contributions but also man hours/help to the site. Those people deserve recognition… AND if they wish to contribute a crapload of money in order to be on top – more power to them (and great for the site). If I could afford to spend any more of my disability on Z scale, I’d do it here (OK, I’d buy visitors and start my own site, but the thought is there somewhere anyway). Then remove the contributions from the regular points system. Since the forum has its own points system, remove forum “posts” from the system as well. Calculate points on “use”, in other words, on number of pages visited (forum pages, photos, chat, eventz, etc., etc.). That will show the top “Users” of the site.

Joe

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14 years 2 months ago #9757 by Fred
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Good day--- This morning I wrote a long message basically supporting the point system, and after reading it several times, deleted the post. I regret it now as it was well thought out and the below seems disjointed. I felt the point system as it was first devised could be another nice tool for ZCS. There was even a feature to give points to other members. We used points as reqwards to the Peanut Butter challenge and a series of discussion topics. I know personally several members that have given away hundreds of points.
It is a system that says thanks- in a small way- but nice-- to active members-- and to those who support ZCS monetarily. It's a way for newbies to find a place to start parusing this site. We might as well take the rocker arms off the sargent stripes-- make em all even- the stripes from an officers sleeve, the badges away from the eagle scouts. It was a way to recognize support for ZCS- either through commenting on fotos- maybe even offering an alternative suggestion here and there, or even going to the trouble of posting a picture, or answering a query. I see the rating of Tycoon is gone - eventually everyone can be a conductor. Like madamn Boxer- she worked hard for her title and demanded a General call her Senator instead of Mamm. I'm ambivelent about the point system as it has evolved.. At one time we traded off points and there was some comradery. now it seems like an appendix.
Going to any site it is hard to determine who really is a supporter and who is the infrequent poster.
I will truncate my remarks, wish I had posted the previous message.
Fred

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14 years 2 months ago #9762 by stonysmith
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Fred.. there is still hope.. Tycoon is still an option for you B) 361 more Forum messages and you'll be a Tycoon.

The Zpoints is an independent counter from the Switchman/Breakman/../Tycoon counter, which counts the number of Forum Posts you've made.

Here's the current levels:
Title Posts
Switchman=0
Brakeman=100
Foreman=200
Engineer=300
Conductor=500
Dispatcher=750
YardMaster=1000
Tycoon=1500

I believe we can remove Zpoints without affecting the Post counters.

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14 years 2 months ago #9763 by Socalz44
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As I'm still a member my vote is for getting rid of ZPoints. I'm not sure they ever served a purpose in the way they were intended. Some money was raised and some folks got to 'get' some points by contributing. It was okay for a while to see points traded back and forth between members. A good sense of community in those acts. Beyond that I was always against them and told Brad so back in the day. He was the boss, so ZPoints.
Today is another day and I'm for dropping them. Those that need the gratification of "points" will just have to post more and read their gains in their profile. Jim :)

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14 years 2 months ago #9764 by Fred
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Jim-- Glad you are spouting off-- ( that's nautical speak ) hope you continue to contribute to ZCS.
Fred

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14 years 2 months ago #9765 by Mr.JA
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HELLO, JIM! :woohoo: How are you? Nice to "see" you back at ZCS! B)

Well... I just donated all my points to someone else... so, now I really don't care about keeping the point system. :blush:

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