New CP Wide vision caboose kit

Here's a thread to announce that my new CP wide vision caboose kit is finally available.

Available on both places, either from my site animekmodels.com/Z_Scale_CP_Wide_Main.htm
or on Zscale Monster.



This kit includes 3 decals schemes to choose from and is mostly made of Lazerboard

Ben

Ben, Outstanding! This looks like a Peanut Butter Lid Challenge entry as well. Cheers, Jim CCRR:)

This looks like a challenge to build -- any recommendations on the skill level needed to make this fine looking model?

A Canadian caboose! It's lovely I'm more used to seeing CN cabooses, but a CP caboose is the next best thing

I've never heard of cabooses referred to as "vans", as stated on your web page. My dad's dad worked for CN for his entire life starting in the 1920s in Watrous, Saskatchewan. His family lived across the street from the Watrous train station. I just now called up my 80 year old dad and asked him if he ever heard of a caboose referred to as a "van". He didn't know what I was talking about. A caboose is a caboose to him. "Van" must be an Eastern Canadian term, 'cuz us Westerners calls 'em cabooses

saundebn wrote:

This looks like a challenge to build -- any recommendations on the skill level needed to make this fine looking model?

I always recommend starting with 1 or 2 "structures" laser kits before attacking a rolling stock kit, since they are more challenging and takes a little more time to assemble versus a structure one, mostly because they have way more complex parts.

But I am always open to give help to anyone who would be having difficulties. So far since I started creating kits in 2006, I never had any email request for any help, beside the choice of paint brand. Maybe some people are afraid to ask for support, I don't know?

Ben

Hi Beverly, I stand corrected and I've made the change on my page and had put the word "some" instead, so it should determine only a group of persons.

One of my uncle working as a contractor for train companies as a "crane operator" during any derailment from coast to coast, used to call them Van. Hey! he even calls the trucks "bogey's"

But the thing is, we are French, so the tongue being a lazy muscle, it goes for the shorter words I guess. LOL! The English language has mostly all the short words, so we borrow a lot of them. The contrary is rarer, but I see it sometimes, like using the french word "voila" instead of saying "here it is" although I've seen it spelled very wrongly a few time (Walah & viola)

Ben

animek wrote:

...The contrary is rarer, but I see it sometimes, like using the french word "voila" instead of saying "here it is" although I've seen it spelled very wrongly a few time (Walah & viola)

Ben

A bicycle mechanic I used to know would emphasize that a given task was completed by gesturing to his work, and proudly announcing "Viola!" (pronounced like the musical instrument, but stated as an announcement of success, as you would "voila").

Ben

I've noticed that it's often Americans who say Wallah. Sadly, I'm an Anglaphone in a bilingual country where French is our other national language. However, I do say, "et voila!" at the completion of a task - with the correct pronunciation At least some of my high school French lessons stuck from the 1970s

My best guess is that "van" is an Ontario expression. I don't know what a caboose would be called in Quebec or in the Maritime provinces (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island). And there might yet be a different expression for caboose in Newfoundland, which was a British Dominion from 1907 to 1949 when it became a Canadian province. (Alberta and Saskatchewan became provinces in 1905. Prior to that, Alberta and Saskatchewan were part of the vast North-West Territories.) Because of Newfoundland's largely Irish ancestral influences as well as being an island, they have a lot of colloquialisms not common to the rest of Canada. A Newfoundlander's accent is easy to pick out from other Canadian regional accents. Newfoundland also has a 1/2 hour time zone difference from Altantic Time. But maybe they call a caboose a caboose there, too

Beverly56 wrote:

My best guess is that "van" is an Ontario expression.

Evidently "van" is used predominantly in Eastern Canada, and it's derived from the British term, which is more fully "brake van" or "guard's van."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_van

Beverly56 wrote:

A Canadian caboose! It's lovely I'm more used to seeing CN cabooses, but a CP caboose is the next best thing

I've never heard of cabooses referred to as "vans", as stated on your web page. My dad's dad worked for CN for his entire life starting in the 1920s in Watrous, Saskatchewan. His family lived across the street from the Watrous train station. I just now called up my 80 year old dad and asked him if he ever heard of a caboose referred to as a "van". He didn't know what I was talking about. A caboose is a caboose to him. "Van" must be an Eastern Canadian term, 'cuz us Westerners calls 'em cabooses

With two uncles who worked for CN and CP I understood the term Van and Crummy to be terms used by the crews for the caboose and as men did not always stay in one depot the term was fairly common in the both systems.

Caboose in French is "fourgon de queue" also Fourgon in French is Van in English so a literal translation might be given as "van of the tail" this might be a more important source of the word and why van is used for caboose in Canada.

I am from Winnipeg originally and the term was certainly familiar to my uncle who joined the railroad there post WWII as brakeman and went on the be Number one Conductor on CN in the Vancouver to Revelstoke section of CN and going over to VIA Rail as their #1 or most senior conductor until retirement.

Winnipeg is also the most western city in Canada with a large French speaking population going back to its origins in the 1800's.

cheerz Garth

Garth,

Thanks for the interesting caboose history lesson

There are pockets of French settlements all over northern and central Alberta. Such towns and small cities have the names Girouxville, Bonnyville, Lac La Biche, St. Paul, St. Albert, Leduc, Jean D'Or Prairie, Baptiste Lake, Falher, Bon Accord, Morinville, and many more that I don't remember anymore. These are names I recall from working at Edmonton's main post office in the 1970s-80s. I had to know place names throughout the province in order to hand sort parcels and letters, and always wondered how Seven Persons and Manyberries in southern Alberta were named. I did find out why Mountain View got its name. As I drove many years ago southwest over flat, then through rolling prairie toward Waterton National Park, I crested a hill and there was the most beautiful mountain view I'd seen for hundreds of miles.

I also picked up place names in other provinces. Moose Factory, Ontario comes to mind. I used to say that's where all the moose in N. America were manufactured Uranium City and Eldorado, Saskatchewan both had airmail service out of Edmonton for many years. But sometime in the early 80s, the service stopped. It felt very strange to have two air mail bags - and two towns, essentially - suddenly drop off our radar.




But this is Ben's thread Congratulations, Ben, on your fine CP caboose

Beverly56 wrote:

....But this is Ben's thread .....

No, no, I always like to read other people stories, very interesting.
And after all, it's a free country...continent...or world.

Ben